Well spoken.

The express plate is a modified UHF original plate, so the only difference is the lock in on the express.

If I were you, I'd get the cleans and buy some bbk plates. Use the bbk plates for rails and sometimes ledges (to get a groove in the plate), and the UHF originals for curbs and ledges

Be careful with the UHF originals though

I will say this for the express however.


The express has made me learn to keep my feet steady on the rails. That is one thing I enjoy about my white express (I got rid of the grey ones, hello vectors!)

But otherwise, I can only use those things on rails. How unfortunate. :(. I don't regret it though, Ledges and curbs are getting boring anyway for me. I like jumping on rails a lot much more anyway.

everyone always down's the express. Why? i have no idea. But i know the express has extremely good lock-in and speed

SpiderSoaper

Thanks, that makes everything what I was trying to say a lot more simple lol

But it's not an issue of wax with me. Its more like with the express, you need to be in one EXACT position, or you're screwed. You not only need to have your feet straight, but you need to be EXACTLY on the ledge/curb. Because if you go more above it (as if you were grinding a rail), then you would go no where XD


Downing the express? We're just saying what we know from using the product. And from what Keith and I see, the express is a smaller UHF original with a strict lockin. Same with the speedster. We figure that a lot of these plates needed to come from one grind plate or another. Just look at the framework of each plate:

Octane, speedster, UHF original, Impact (depending on which impact plate), and of course the curb buster. Each of them have a similar framework, whether it be bbk, UHF original, or maybe even quickdraw XD

Alrighty then....

Ramen your also right, the position thing u said is tru as well

I dunno why u are dissing the express. My first SOAP was express, and they were fun :P. They only thing they arent good for is square rails becuase that V lockin is pretty much a round rail or ledge only.

Cleans aren't compfy IMHO, but i have sensative feet. The sole is hard, so you will only have the foot linner for comfert. Express you have a squishier sole (expecially now).

I say for a first pair, get express, help out the cause too. Express you'll learn a lot about SOAPing on.

"In my humble opinion"

And I think that express work good on square rails. Just ask Renny (at least I think), or AJ